Welcome to On Humans!

This is Ilari Mäkelä, the producer and host of the show. You can listen to my work on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your shows.

I interview world-leading scholars about their research on humanity. Most of the show focuses on the story of our species, from the evolution of apes to the making of the modern economy. I sometimes dabble in more general questions about the human condition, with the odd episode on philosophy or neuroscience.

I have ongoing collaborations with research centres in evolutionary anthropology and economic history. Does your institution want support in communicating complex research? Do reach out and let’s discuss! Just message me here, on Substack, or send me an email to makela.ilari@outlook.com.


Reviews & Recommendations

On Humans is trusted by several leading scholars and best-selling authors.

  • An incredible program… Deep and interesting“

    Yasheng Huang, author of The Rise and Fall of the East

  • “Terrific… Deep and meaningful”

    Patricia Churchland, author of Conscience

  • “Widely admired and well worth subscribing to”

    Tirthankar Roy, author of Origins of Colonialism

  • “Absolutely incredible”

    Helen Fisher, author of Why We Love

  • "I highly recommend On Humans!”

    Brad DeLong, author of Slouching Towards Utopia

I’ve ended up interviewing two of the most recent Nobel Prize winners in Economics. Both thanked me for a well-researched production.

  • “This was a great conversation!”

    Daron Acemoglu, Nobel laureate 2024.

  • “A terrific interview! One of the best.”

    Joel Mokyr, Nobel laureate 2025


How to listen?

You can listen to On Humans on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your shows. You can also read my essays and insights right here on Substack.

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What’s on the Menu?

A lot of my current work concerns human origins. This has given me the privilege of interviewing giants like Richard Wrangham, Sarah Blaffer Hrdy, and Ian Tattersall. In March 2025, I launched a five-part series on human origins, produced in collaboration with the great folks at CARTA (UC San Diego).

I am also interested in the history of everyday life. This makes me a big consumer of economic history. If you share this interest, you might be interested in my four-part series on the “Birth of Modern Prosperity”. You’ll learn a lot of quirky history and hear Nobel laureate Daron Acemoglu give his ode to humanity.

To move beyond the “Western canon”, check out my country-specific series, such as What About China? or What About India?.

I occasionally cover topics in my original fields of Philosophy and Psychology. For example, you can learn about the philosophy of infinity here or the psychology of generosity here. To enjoy a full series on the mysteries of the human brain, check this out!


About me

I got hooked on philosophy during my high school years in Finland. I then studied Philosophy and Psychology at Oxford before specialising in Chinese Philosophy at Peking University (北大).

After graduating, I turned to more general questions about the human condition. My academic publications investigate the neuroscience of culturethe psychology of inequality, and the philosophy of human nature. I’ve also written for larger audiences about the fallacies of modern Darwinism and the lifeways of hunter-gatherers.

I am also interested in mental health, especially mindfulness-related techniques in CBT. I am currently training to be a CBT therapist.


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